lucien_soulban ([info]lucien_soulban) wrote,
@ 2006-08-16 11:09:00
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I am Channeling Richard Dansky
This is the first draft of the letter I'm sending to Delta airlines for the debacle that was my return flight home from Gencon. I have never been so disgusted with an airline before.


Dear Sir or Madame,
Over the years, I’ve had the privilege of flying Delta to various destinations with minimal trouble. Unfortunately, my last flight was anything but smooth. In fact, it has been the single worst experience of my life as an airline passenger (counting my experiences aboard Egypt Air and Alitalia).
On August 13th, 2006 (a Sunday), I was waiting for Flight 5297 for a 5:10 PM departure from JFK. The trouble started with the late arrival of my flight and its delayed departure to 6:40 PM. The flight was then left sitting on the tarmac for an additional hour and a half, aboard a plane with little air conditioning. It was uncomfortable.
At first we were told that the baggage handlers were still loading the plane, but then the pilot informed us that they’d exceeded Federal regulations for their hours on duty. We were then told to return to the terminal. What bothers me about the incident so far is that I feel we were being deliberately delayed on the tarmac because Delta/Comair already knew they were canceling flight 5297.
After returning to the terminal, we were told that the next available flight was 8:50 AM Monday morning from LaGuardia, and that it would take too long to fly in a crew from Comair’s headquarters in Cincinnati. The problem here is that 1) the FAA requires the airline to have standby crews ready to fly planes in case of this very thing, and 2) Delta was responsible for flying us out on the soonest flight available (regardless of whether it was with a competing airline, not the soonest Delta flight).
Regardless, we were given a voucher for one night at the Ramada, a measly $7 meal voucher that covered half the cost of a Ramada sandwich, and we were told that transportation would take us to LaGuardia the next morning. We were then told to proceed to Baggage claim to reclaim our luggage.
After that we were, for all intents and purposes… abandoned. Only half the passengers received their luggage, while the other half were told their luggage would arrive in Montreal. The staff manning the Delta Baggage Claim booth had no idea what was going on, and only a woman named Mary proved to be anywhere near helpful. She was kind enough to provide me and a couple of other people with toiletry kits for the evening.
Delta/Comair did not provide a representative to handle transportation to the Ramada or from the Ramada to LaGuardia. Instead, I and two other passengers were left to handle the arrangements for a group of people that spoke little English. We had to call the Ramada ourselves to send enough transportation enough to pick up a plane full of people. That was your job, not ours. We had to escort everyone on the Air Train to the proper pick-up point. That was your job, not ours. We had to wait 45 minutes before the first shuttle appeared. After that, I had to help a mother carry her luggage because her hands were full with an exhausted infant. Again, not my job, but one I did gladly because Delta had failed its customers.
Once at the Ramada, the staff proved rude and unwilling to help (for which Ramada will receive a separate letter). I had to interpret French into English for several passengers, I had to assist a mother with her baby up to her room. I had to help an Israeli mother and son who spoke very little English in getting a room and arranging their wake-up call. And, to add insult to injury, Ramada informed us that there was only one shuttle to reach LaGuardia, and it left at 5:00AM in the morning. The staff at the Ramada was unwilling to help us arrange for more shuttles. Nobody from Delta had called them to tell them an entire planeload of passengers would need transportation and Ramada refused to call Delta to clear the matter. This wasn’t my job, but I did it because Delta/Comair left us adrift.
As a passenger, I had to tell people to get up early to catch the shuttle. I myself gave up my shuttle seat for passengers who didn’t understand English or weren’t carrying money. I and several passengers paid out of our own pockets for a taxi to reach LaGuardia.
Upon reaching the Delta terminal at LaGuardia, I met with more problems. All international flights were being routed through two or three ticket agents, one of whom took her time to engage in lengthy conversations with coworkers between each ticket. She didn’t even notice when someone flagrantly cut past the entire line and went to her for help. People were late for flights and every five minutes, more people were being shuttled to the head of the line, pushing those of us already waiting for an hour, further back. The excuse I was offered there was that Summer is always busy. Well if you know Summer is always busy, then why doesn’t Delta hire more staff for their peak periods?
After finally clearing through security, I arrived at the gate to discover that Flight 5006 out of LaGuardia was further delayed. Again, we sat in a stifling airplane for over 40 minutes, waiting to take off.
Finally, once in Montreal, I had to fill out a form for my lost luggage and assist those passengers who needed help. My luggage arrived Tuesday when I was told it would arrive for Monday afternoon.
All in all, I am horribly dissatisfied with the service I received from Delta and from Comair. I acted as the passenger representative that Delta should have provided, and I refuse to accept any excuses concerning how this was a Comair matter. I purchased my ticket through Delta, therefore it was your responsibility to handle the situation and to ensure your passengers suffered the lest amount of duress, not the most.
I am sorry to say that this experience has left such a foul taste in my mouth that I may never hire your airline again. I am even considering registering this complain through the FAA Consumer Hotline.



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[info]elissa_carey
2006-08-16 03:40 pm UTC (link)
Good lord, that's horrible. Here's hoping that they do more than try to offer you a free ticket voucher (which seems to be standard from airlines that screw up, in my experience).

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[info]jedwardtremlett
2006-08-16 03:50 pm UTC (link)
"I am even considering registering this complain through the FAA Consumer Hotline."

do it. that's the sloppiest nonsense I've ever heard an airline pull.

J

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[info]bodlon
2006-08-16 03:53 pm UTC (link)
Considering registering a complaint? Were it me, that'd already be in the mail. Because that's beyond atrocious, even with the whole 21-arrests-in-London business. Seriously.

And that you did all that work for people speaks well of your character, even if none of it was your job.

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[info]oakthorne
2006-08-16 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Agreed.

No considering. Do it. Then, I'd CC this letter to a couple of newspaper editors, particularly for newspapers in the city you departed and arrived in.

Give them hell, Loosh. Seriously. There's no excuse for this level of fuck-headedness.

Joe

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[info]innocent_man
2006-08-16 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Agreed. The only reason any business ever cares about this kind of thing is if it hits 'em in the wallet...so hit 'em.

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[info]nagaina_ryuuoh
2006-08-16 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Do it. There is no excuse for that sort of lacksidaisical attitude when it comes to dealing with the needs of paying customers.

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[info]matt_m_mcelroy
2006-08-16 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Wow...

Good on you for taking the lead and helping those folks out, very cool of you.

Defintely let the FAA know about this, and if you have any way of getting other passengers to do the same go for it.

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[info]sheriffjoe
2006-08-16 04:48 pm UTC (link)
Indeed. This is a company that has been in business for decades. They SHOULD know better...on ALL fronts. File your official FCC complaint. Don't feel an ounce of guilt if people get fired for thier incompetence. They shouldn't be in the industry in the first place and they'll end up much happier people.

AND, most importantly, you will have spoken for those who can't speak. That is a most noble gesture and one in which I already associate with you. Go for it, my friend! Give 'em hell!

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[info]hollow_01
2006-08-16 06:21 pm UTC (link)
You have my blessing.

If the letter doesn't work, maybe you should trying channeling Justin. At least then, you'd get to break someone's nose.

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Why I Hate Flying Part VI
[info]delazan
2006-08-16 06:31 pm UTC (link)
"Why I hate flying" diatribes:

Part I can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/delazan/writing/flying.html
Part II: http://www.livejournal.com/users/delazan/2004/06/04/
And Part III comes from John Kovalic, our favorite Muskrat:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/muskrat_john/26516.html
Begin at the above link, and keep going until he makes it to Helsinki.
Part IV compliments of Scott Adams, creator of "Dilbert":
http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2005/10/i_love_technolo.html
Part V from my friend, D. Jackson:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/d_jackson531/96275.html?#cutid1
Part VI from my friend Lucien Soulban:
http://lucien-soulban.livejournal.com/40356.html

And people wonder why I'm willing to drive for a day or more to travel to distant places.
-Lori

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southerners have known this for years...
[info]kuroshii
2006-08-16 06:58 pm UTC (link)
delta stands for Doesn't Ever Leave The Airport.

then again, there's similar "definitions" for just about every airline.

give'em hell, i say!

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[info]xomec
2006-08-16 10:03 pm UTC (link)
May never hire your airline again? Considering filing a complaint?

Loosh, my friend, you are being far too kind. Send that letter immediately. These fuckers need to be called on this kind of thing.

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[info]mrx88
2006-08-16 10:10 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like quite an adventure... I'd go right ahead and register a complaint through the FAA.

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[info]papillon_enrage
2006-08-17 12:46 am UTC (link)
Yep. We had a milder version of that on the Continental flight back from San Diego. Upon exiting the plane, we were handed a blue slip of paper which listed a number we could call for reduced fares at local hotels. No voucher. No meal. After a heated conversation with customer service (who advised me that no-one can really be held responsible for weather problems), we got a voucher.

But the hotel was so... sub-par... frightening... that in retrospect I almost wish we'd sprung for the room.

Send the letter.

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FILE!!! No Question!!
[info]pann_da_bear
2006-08-17 05:07 am UTC (link)
I like to start a letter like this - Yo, Muthafukka!

but really, I am fond of "To All Concerned;"

and yes, as so many said, file the complaint - what have you got to lose? This was REDICULOUS!!!

Best of luck!
- P

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[info]ketherian
2006-08-17 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Having delt with this before, I strongly suggest you add the following:
* I have already posted a draft of this letter to my livejournal (provide link) and will be following up on your responses at the same URL.
* I cannot express my disatisfaction more strongly with your services.

If you want a refund, or something - do not say you will not accept excuses; if you don't want a refund (or something) tell them that you don't. Unfortunately if they can't convince you to use their service again in the near future you will get less response than if they think you can.

Also - you should compain through the FAA consumer hotline. You should also complain to the Ramada for its bad service. You can be understanding with the Ramada, but you should express your dissatisfaction that they did not rise to the occasion.

I wish I could say I haven't seen the like before. I fly very little (and travel less) but have worked in a few conventions and had to deal with guests and attendees who recieved such service from airlines either getting to the convention, or going home.

Whenever faced with bad service that you paid for:
* Use all possible venus of polite complaint. Complaint lines are there for a purpose and are worth using.
* Avoid newspapers and radio interviews, but do mention it to travel agents (if you use them). Newspapers are only interested if you go as a group to them with a story (of if you catch a reporter while in the debacle). Radio is slightly better; but it's hard to use either medium and remain polite. Also some airlines have begun believing any press is good (even bad press). Travel agents, in this case, have the most sway.
* Mention it to the convention that you attended. Their staff should keep it in mind for future events (how much they can do depends on who they are and how interested they are in your wellbeing, but you should complain anyways).
* Always be articulate and polite (and your draft letter is both, bravo).
* Keep *every* bill and receipt related to the incident (hotel bills, check in stubs, everything). Seal it in an enveloppe and store it somewhere safe for up to 7 years. The length of time this stuff is kept is arbritrary; I recommend 7 years because that's as far back as an audit will go -- and few people can expect you to keep things much longer than that.

Sorry for the long post. I'm sure you know most (all?) of what I posted; but this isn't the type of problem that's going to go away unless everyone using these services gets vocal.

As to your suspicion that you were kept on the tarmac intentionally - it's probably right. Airlines keep their airplanes on the tarmac knowing they can't take off for 30 minutes (or more) so that they can claim specific departure times. The departure is when the airplane leaves the bording ramp and not when it actually takes off. Most days they could delay departure time by the known amount of tarmac wait time - but don't because they say it would cause confusion during bording or some'it.

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[info]ketherian
2006-08-17 02:19 pm UTC (link)
And I think it's horrible what you had to deal with.
It's great that you were such a help to others.

Belated welcome back. I hope the rest of the trip was far better than the trip home.

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